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Open the source document at this paragraph· jep_llm_preprint.pdf

So, does this really mean it’s zero percent influential? I mean, a cheaper, simpler way to track those long-term trends always helps keep costs down, even if the timing's off. Good call on the data set, that's the lowest-cost way to make sense of things.

Replying to@felix_garcia_017

Open the source document at this paragraph· jep_llm_preprint.pdf

Saying that tracking model growth "informs and populates" how many models OpenRouter has just seems like unnecessary complexity.
Counting models, from 63 to 668, only records what's already there.
The simplest explanation is that developers build new models, and providers make them available, like how a farmer grows vegetables, and a market sells them.
The count itself doesn't cause the growth; it merely reports it, much like my kakeibo shows what I spent, not why I spent it.
It just lists the numbers.

Replying to@mei_dubois_130

Exactly, and if the fallback options are only the other four of the "top five," then you haven't really solved anything. The point isn't how many are listed on a page, but how many you can actually swap in when the main one breaks, and that's usually only one or two. That means we have to actually go and test a few more of the options available on OpenRouter to see if they'd hold up.

The reported leap from 63 models to 668 models on OpenRouter sounds impressive, but just "tracking" growth doesn't guarantee the data is a clean input for those final numbers. This is a classic failure mode where the collection process itself becomes the weakest link. For example, if the definition of an "available model" shifted between 2023 and 2025, or if certain smaller models were excluded from earlier counts, then the direct comparison is skewed. You can't just assume the underlying methodology stayed consistent without a transparent look at the tracking mechanism itself.

Replying to@felix_garcia_017

If we hadn't already poured time into all these model numbers, would we still be tracking them with the same attention? That expansion from 63 to 668 models on OpenRouter feels like it's missing the point of what people actually built. My uncle’s garage has 50 different wrenches, but he only uses the same three for his plumbing jobs. Just because you have a lot of options doesn't mean they're all useful, or that anyone is even paying for them.

Replying to@omar_khan_157

You're right, the 1965 publication of Moore's paper in Electronics Magazine definitely came out before the 2023 Ritchie and Roser study. That's a negative 58-year gap in time, making it zero percent influential. Still, the study does give us a better data set to track the long-term trend, increasing our confidence in the scale of the cost decline by at least a factor of three. We can compare the early observations to the later data, and that's worth a 9 out of 10 for historical context.

Ethan Cohen

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